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gougou -



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well.... lets just say, gougou, that youd be less free to do what you want both politically and
personally as a chinese citizen.

I'm not sure about this. Judging by freedom of speech, it seems to me that a Chinese in the UK has
more rights than a Briton in China (Have both of them distribute FLG flyers to find out )



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imron -

This is making an invalid comparison. To make a fair comparison, you'd have to put the scenario
something like:

Chinese person handing FLG fliers out in China.
vs
Briton handing FLG fliers out in China.

and then

Chinese person handing FLG fliers out in Britain
vs
Briton handing FLG fliers out in Britain.

Both groups fair just as well when handing out fliers in Britain, but I think the Briton is
probably going to end up the better of the two in the first scenario.










md1101 -

yeah im trying to say what imron just did

gougou, you're not wrong. we're both looking at this in different ways. i just see it this way:

- A Briton handing out flg flyers in china would be deported... a chinese doing the same in china
could be locked up and never heard from again.

- A Chinese citizen has trouble attaining visa's to various countries around the world. I know its
been very hard to try and get my gf over here! (australia)

-Yes, a chinese citizen would be free to hand out flg flyers in briton but anyone is. the task of
the chinese citizen is to get to britain which isnt so easy. so IF lungyan manages to get a
british pemanent resident visa then i guess it should be easy to get to england. but he wouldnt
want to do anything bad in britain that china might hear about or he can expect to not to be
allowed to leave china again when he goes back there.

all in all he will lose some freedoms.










lungyan -

Thanks everyone I shall reply to each of you here.

novemberfog: well i need to be a permanent resident i don't intend to live anywhere else. there's
things i need to do that definitely will require citizenship.

geraldc: i understand that but i need permanent citizenship.

mickdriscoll: i know, i wouldn't hesitate to revoke uk citizenship. i don't think the restrictions
will affect me too much. the second part sounds interesting but i don't ever need to return to the
uk and wouldn't care to. yeah i really do need it i've got things to do in life that will require
it.

gougou: thanks i will check that link out.

Thank you all for the help so far.










geraldc -

Now you've peaked my interest. What on earth do you want to do that would require citizenship?
You're not another person who wants to join the PLA are you?










self-taught-mba -



Quote:

Now you've peaked my interest. What on earth do you want to do that would require citizenship?
You're not another person who wants to join the PLA are you?

Oh NO!!!! Not that thing again! I was worried it was gonna go there.










mr.stinky -

gougou.....how am i gonna get permanant residency also? i may get married and stay
five years, but i have no job. i'm retired on my savings/investments, so no stable income.
i'm not 60 yet, and not a dependant. at least i have no record of being convicted of
breaking the law. so do i have to join the pla to become a citizen?










lungyan -

Haha no not at all nothing like that. It is for legitimate reasons. Heh. Yeah it seems so
difficult to obtain such a simple thing that will be of no harm to anyone but great benefit to me.
It can't be so impossible can it?










liuzhou -



Quote:

i may get married and stay five years, but i have no job. i'm retired on my savings/investments,
so no stable income.

Can you tell me what sort of reply would be given to a Chinese person desiring permanent residence
in your country who applied on that basis?










flameproof -

>I need to get Chinese citizenship and right of abode in Hong Kong.

The 2 are not related.

>Chinese citizenship

That's from China and probably impossible to obtain. There are only very few cases were it was
given out to foreigners.

>right of abode in Hong Kong.

Right of abode you reach after residing 7 years in HK. With RoA you can apply for "Permanent
Residency". Then you could apply for a "HK SAR" passport. To actually get the passport you would
have to give up your UK nationality.

The HK Passport brings you few (if any) advantages. The only thing I can think of is that you can
get a 10 year China visa (or "home" permit - wue heung jin). As a Permanent Resident with a
foreign passport you can apply only for up to 3 years.

That is really the very only advantage I can think of. And remember that you would need to apply a
visa for almost every country you plan to travel to in advance.












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